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Auxlang Thinking?
Some things don't make sense. Especially when some are into learning the so-called auxiliary languages. For example:
How much sense does this make to you? As you read this, think about the actual situation. In order to post these comments the writers had to register and join the site in order to join the discussion on why they won't register to learn something. Really, how much sense does that make? Or, is it just propaganda to help reduce the pain of deciding to maybe changte course to something better? You decide.
2007/8/30,
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> >Proba! It ne es desfacil. Un persone qui posse apprender ido posse plu facilmen aprender Occidental, si tu questiona me.
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> You're tempting me.. Having decided today that I will not be promoting Medilingua (my views have changed again in the last few months and I'm no longer happy with it) I do have some free time to learn another auxlang. One thing that puts me off is availability of Occ materials. I do have a booklet that Bob sent me once which I could dig out, but are there good grammars etc. online? (I don't want to have to sign up to anything to access them either)
>I feel pretty much the same way. It's been nice seeing a lot of Occidental lately and I hope it continues to grow. I'd like to see a site for the language that lets members and non-members alike view the same content. Not so much for myself as the fact that we auxlangers have a hard enough time convincing people of the need for an IAL, but to convince somebody to sign up for a site at the same time before they have even been convinced, forget it. It would be akin to a religion asking people to join first before they show them the scriptures it's based on.
Here we see part of the problem with the auxlang movement, until now. That is, they have no concept on how to market or present the languages to the world. Yet, here they are making a turn in the right direction, but then saying no one should register for the information they want. Why not? Are they more special than anyone else? Or, the rest of the world who have no problems registering to get information they want? Well, if they hadn't registered on their discussion list, how did they expect for the members of the list to see their comments? So, they are willing to register when it suits their own purposes.
Again, does this make sense to you? It doesn't, and is simply a reflection of something else. Registering obviously is no problem to them, except for the other reason. I'll let you figure that one out.
Now, considering the availability of Occidental materials, where are these folks going to go for it where they won't have to register? It is virtually unavailable elsewhere, except for some older material constantly being reissued on different small sites.
Are they going to get the former Occidentalists to give up what material they may have to the "detriment" of their present IAL affiliation?
Are they going to get the Biblioteca in Europe to release all the material it has to the public for reproductin again?
Or, are they going to have to learn with what bits and pieces they can find of old material that in most cases does not have the final version of Occidental?
Are they going to have to learn as the first Occidentalists did? With no grammars, no vocabularies, etc?
Are they going to try and remake the remarkable language into their own weaker version as has been attempted over and over againd for decades?
Are they going to continue trying to dissect the language instead of actually learning it as it works?
All these and more, are just reflections of the regressive attitudes within the auxlang movement itself. It is a self-defeating attitude, and is the primary cause of why there is no settled international language today. Yet, here is the language that works better than all others, and "we won't register to learn it."
Well, that's too bad, because the rewards are far greater than one's restrictive preference, "register-- not me, I want it my way and my way only."
That is why the auxlang movement does not move ahead today. They all want each language to function their way. I.e. their own personal way. But, as history has shown, those with that attitude will be trying to figure out their way while Occidental grows without them.
It's their choice, don't you agree?